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FWord Utorid's Latest Project Public Landbot Breakdown. (Revised)

Just in case your following Project Public Land bot, here's the latest open enrollment public group chat log. Someone makes the mistake of asking Fword if he has any type of time line, similar to what I asked on Christmas out of curiosity, and again the question was met with excuses, anger, and a very defensive attitude. My gut feeling has always been that he has been doing nothing more than taking money for something that he is not capable of, and I have heard from a few separate people that Fword has been paid to create a land bot 2 times in the past but has never come through. I've been waiting to have my gut feeling proven wrong by his actions, but so far I'm still waiting.

 

[13:30] Kenny Stringer: are the land bots working yet ???
[13:30] nimrod Yaffle: I know someone who made a landbot in 2 weeks..... I think you guys found the wrong person to make it :P
[13:30] Kenny Stringer: its free right
[13:31] nimrod Yaffle: Theirs? no
[13:31] Kenny Stringer: no ours
[13:31] nimrod Yaffle: If it ever gets done lol
[13:31] Kenny Stringer: ok
[13:33] FWord Utorid: nimrod, i think i don't care about your opinion. my life is not to be owned by you or your opinion
[13:33] FWord Utorid: I know someone who made a nimrod yaffle in 12 seconds.
[13:33] FWord Utorid: work is being done.
[13:33] FWord Utorid: christmas, new years, and a lot of bs piled up on me
[13:33] nimrod Yaffle: [13:33] FWord Utorid: I know someone who made a nimrod yaffle in 12 seconds.
[13:33] FWord Utorid: totally don't need you to add to it, so thanks ;)
[13:33] nimrod Yaffle: Umm that made no sense
[13:33] Kenny Stringer: this is true
[13:33] FWord Utorid: I am glad it didn't.
[13:34] FWord Utorid: My response to you is, you don't know what's happening, so thanks. More information will be provided.
[13:34] FWord Utorid: I'm not in a contest to please nimrod Yaffle.
[13:34] nimrod Yaffle: You're being paid by the public to create it, it is your responsibility to let us know what IS going on
[13:35] FWord Utorid: nimrod, no matter how much they pay me, I don't have to take your shit ;)
[13:35] FWord Utorid: now, that said, discussion closed, i'll be talking to landbot shepherd later, thanks for your concern.
[13:35] nimrod Yaffle: You're a public servant
[13:35] nimrod Yaffle: :D
[13:36] Kenny Stringer: true bur hes not a slave Eather
[13:36] Kenny Stringer: but
[13:36] FWord Utorid: I don't have to be nice to nimrod on command.
[13:36] nimrod Yaffle: I never asked him to do anything, did I?
[13:36] FWord Utorid: no. so? I still retain the right to say evil things.
[13:36] FWord Utorid: so thre.
[13:37] FWord Utorid: and there, even.
[13:37] Kenny Stringer: no But you inconsiderert
[13:37] nimrod Yaffle: FWroid, just so you know, the person who made the landbot in less than 2 weeks, said it seemed you didn't know what you were doing when he looked at your blog post about the search scripts
[13:37] nimrod Yaffle: How about you stop leading people on and refund their money?
[13:37] Kenny Stringer: he dont have to do it at all
[13:37] FWord Utorid: no, i'm not refunding money, i'm moving forward with the project. I'm not running for president, either.
[13:38] FWord Utorid: I have RL drama to contend with, you aren't worth it.
[13:38] FWord Utorid: project goes forward, thank you for your concern.
[13:38] nimrod Yaffle: Okey Dokey, sorry to all of you who put money into trusting him. What do you think is a reasonable timeframe for this to be complete?
[13:39] FWord Utorid: yes, I'm only here to rip you off, thanks for your money, nimrod wins. OR NOT.
[13:39] nimrod Yaffle: Keep up that attitude and you'll win lots of friends
[13:39] FWord Utorid: You're just a heckler.
[13:39] FWord Utorid: I don't need friends, nor do i need you wasting my time.
[13:39] nimrod Yaffle: I asked what you thought a timeframe for the project to be completed by would be
[13:40] FWord Utorid: i'm done talking to you nimrod. you just don't get it. I went to mexico with the money!
[13:40] nimrod Yaffle: Haha, you can't even give a timeframe
[13:40] nimrod Yaffle: That's sad
[13:40] FWord Utorid: nimrod, you don't get to put pressure on me. period.
[13:41] nimrod Yaffle: How? Be asking what you THOUGHT would be a timeframe for this to be completed by?
[13:41] FWord Utorid: there are more important things in life than YOUR opinion
[13:41] nimrod Yaffle: Not an opinion, it's a question
[13:41] nimrod Yaffle: Why can't you give a timeframe?
[13:41] FWord Utorid: I DO NOT ANSWER TO NIMROD YAFFLE.
[13:41] nimrod Yaffle: Why?
[13:42] Sarah Nerd: Because this is the 3rd time he's been paid to complete a landbot and has never come thru.
[13:42] nimrod Yaffle: And stop acting so immature
[13:42] FWord Utorid: ok discussion closed thank you.
[13:42] nimrod Yaffle: LOL!
[13:42] FWord Utorid: I am emailing code to landbot shepherd NOW
[13:42] nimrod Yaffle: And?
[13:42] Sarah Nerd: I asked for a time frame around Christmas out of curiosity. Same drama then.
[13:43] FWord Utorid: I DO NOT ANSWER TO NIMROD YAFFLE.
[13:43] FWord Utorid: I do not answer to sarah nerd.
[13:43] nimrod Yaffle: All I have to say is grow the fuck up
[13:43] FWord Utorid: My life is not for you to control by remote.
[13:43] Sarah Nerd: He doesn't answer to anyone, he just strings along sweet people like shep who paid him.
[13:43] FWord Utorid: you have nothing to contribute but negativity, go away.
[13:43] nimrod Yaffle: Haha, so now anyone who asks for a timeframe you don't answer to?
[13:43] FWord Utorid: nope
[13:43] FWord Utorid: this discussion is over, I care little for your bullshit, work continues, thank you for playing.
[13:44] Sarah Nerd: Everytime someone see's the group name in my profile, they mention projects like this he has done before and never come thru on.
[13:44] nimrod Yaffle: So, as the people paying you, why can't you give a timeframe?
[13:44] FWord Utorid: i care nothing for their bullshit
[13:44] FWord Utorid: people like to spread rumors
[13:44] FWord Utorid: i am emailing land shepherd a file as soon as you shut up.
[13:44] FWord Utorid: your opinion differs from the facts
[13:45] FWord Utorid: you piss me off with your ignorance.
[13:45] nimrod Yaffle: How so?
[13:45] FWord Utorid: thank you for playing.
[13:45] Keiko Rau: this is all going down hill fast - my first clue was the first land search in the published code - showing it was pulled from the depths and not the result of this project.
[13:45] Sarah Nerd: So you have never been paid in the past to create a landbot?
[13:45] nimrod Yaffle: Ignorance, by you not being able to answer when we ask for a timeframe?
[13:45] FWord Utorid: I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO TYPE I WOULD RATHER WORK ON SOFTWARE THANK YOU.
[13:45] Keiko Rau: emailing code is another clue? what you have a google code account and you dont wanna use it?
[13:46] nimrod Yaffle: LOL such a liar, this is amazing
[13:46] FWord Utorid: I AM NOT TALKING I AM WORKING THANK YOU FOR BEING LITTLE GOSSIPING BITCHES OF NO VALUE TO THE PROCESS.
[13:46] nimrod Yaffle: and so immature
[13:46] FWord Utorid: YES
[13:46] FWord Utorid: SO MATURE OF ALL OF YOU TO BEAT UP ON ME, THANKS.
[13:46] nimrod Yaffle: We are asking for a timeframe, you could have answered by now
[13:46] FWord Utorid: I DO NOT ANSWER TO PEOPLE WHO PISS ME OFF AND ACCUSE ME OF THINGS WHICH THEY HAVE NO PROOF OF.
[13:46] Sarah Nerd: Wow.
[13:47] FWord Utorid: I ALSO DO NOT HAVE TIME TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO THIS I WOULD RATHER SEND THIS EMAIL OUT AND SHUT YOU UP
[13:47] FWord Utorid: THANK YOU
[13:47] Keiko Rau: lol
[13:48] nimrod Yaffle: So who is in charge of paying this scammer?
[13:48] Sarah Nerd: Theres your project leader folks! What a classy one!
[13:48] Keiko Rau: I would have thought a timeframe was something reasonable to give to interested parties who have joined the group to keep informed of its progress.... Im not filled with confidence after taht
[13:50] Sarah Nerd: A timeframe is reasonable and shouldn't cause a person to go into panic mode or on the defensive like that.
[13:50] nimrod Yaffle: [13:49] FWord Utorid: fuck you, nimrod. i have work to do and a life to lead and your bullshit doesn't help. [13:49] FWord Utorid: either contribute or fuck off. [13:49] nimrod Yaffle: Yes, work = labor that people pay you to do = landbot! [13:50] FWord Utorid: go to hell [13:50] nimrod Yaffle: Cursing and all caps only devalue my opinion of you, and make your defence seem less credible [13:50] FWord Utorid: i don't give a shit about your opinion of me [13:50] FWord Utorid: I HAVE WORK TO DO SHUT UP AND LET ME DO IT [13:50] FWord Utorid: FUCK OFF
[13:51] Sarah Nerd: http://www.your2ndplace.com/node/815
[13:51] Sarah Nerd: He was really looking for help on Christmas
[13:55] nimrod Yaffle: Help, or someone he can ask to do the work for him?
[13:57] Sarah Nerd: Not sure, but someone else was saying they had completed one, and Fword kept suggesting he contribute over and over
[13:57] Sarah Nerd: I got the feeling he really wants someone to tell him how to finish it
[13:57] nimrod Yaffle: Most people who own landbots don't want to share because of the value of them
[13:58] Kenny Stringer: hi Sarah
[13:58] Kenny Stringer: Question
[13:59] Sarah Nerd: He Kenny
[13:59] Sarah Nerd: Hey*
[13:59] Kenny Stringer: Will this Keep Land Vauleu to high
[13:59] Sarah Nerd: I don't this is going anywhere.
[14:00] nimrod Yaffle: I agree, but if one does pop up open source, I'd imagine it would push land prices down, not up
[14:00] Kenny Stringer: i nean if it keeps going up We will lose new players
[14:00] Kenny Stringer: mean
[14:01] Sarah Nerd: LAnd value is up and down according to supply and demend. If it goes to high LL said they will flood the auctions with full sims again to keep it down
[14:01] Kenny Stringer: well peaple like me with little monney
[14:02] Keiko Rau: Sarah. I was reading the group during that conversation and I got the exact same impression
[14:02] Kenny Stringer: just get tacken out
[14:02] Sarah Nerd: He freaks out when ever questioned
[14:03] Land Shepherd: I don't think Landbots have much influence on land values. They went up and down several times in 2007.
[14:03] Sarah Nerd: And I've had a few seperate people tell me that this isn't the first time he's been paid to do this. I have a hard time believing its all rumours
[14:04] Darren Oates: well their goal was to get it to 8-9 per metr last time i think they would want to keep it at 8 atleast anything lower is bad for estate vs mainland
[14:04] Sarah Nerd: If it hikes up to high, LL will bring it down
[14:05] Kenny Stringer: there was to be Auction this mouth i thought
[14:06] nimrod Yaffle: http://usd.auctions.secondlife.com/
[14:06] Land Shepherd: They have been auctioning a lot of abandoned parcels lately.
[14:06] Darren Oates: yep they have flooded it so now thay should be able to controll it by a steady release
[14:06] Kenny Stringer: i looked no sims
[14:06] Sarah Nerd: Yea they have been keeping up on abandoned land pretty good
[14:07] Keiko Rau: I wish they'd list the one next to me thats been there for a year... but at least theyre getting closer
[14:07] Land Shepherd: if you ask them they'll put it up

 

 

PART TWO Jan 6th

I figured I'd just ad todays drama to this blog instead of starting a new blog...

 

[15:15]  Wrestling Hulka: Hello. I was wondering the timeline of the public landbot release.  Will it be sometime this week? By the end of the month? Febuary? Early Spring? Summer? Any ideas?
[15:15]  FWord Utorid: asap
[15:15]  Wrestling Hulka: Andd when is that?
[15:15]  nimrod Yaffle: lawl
[15:15]  FWord Utorid: i sent code to the old one to land shepherd yesterday
[15:16]  Wrestling Hulka: In the terms of the universe.. ASAP could be millions of years.
[15:16]  nimrod Yaffle: The old one?
[15:16]  FWord Utorid: i am reworking it asap but there is... rl to deal with
[15:16]  FWord Utorid: yes
[15:16]  Wrestling Hulka: Like, The Milky Way Galaxy is pending to slam into the Andromeda Galaxy... ASAP
[15:16]  FWord Utorid: i wrote one about 8 months ago
[15:16]  Furlin Nevadan: no
[15:16]  Furlin Nevadan: ah now
[15:16]  Furlin Nevadan: yes
[15:16]  Furlin Nevadan: but very faint
[15:16]  FWord Utorid: like, i am not interested in a long drawn out discussion on how long it will take, i am more interested in doing it.
[15:16]  Wrestling Hulka: What was wrong with releases the one you created 8 months ago?
[15:17]  FWord Utorid: i *do* have other obligations.
[15:17]  Wrestling Hulka: Set of goals
[15:17]  nimrod Yaffle: FWord that is part of keeping a client happy
[15:17]  Wrestling Hulka: I'm just asking your time table..
[15:17]  FWord Utorid: the one i created 8 months ago is outdated.
[15:17]  Wrestling Hulka: a good programmer has a schedule
[15:17]  FWord Utorid: nimrod, i care little about keeping YOU happy.
[15:17]  Wrestling Hulka: and when he intends to reach those goals
[15:17]  FWord Utorid: wrestling, now is not a good time to discuss that.
[15:17]  nimrod Yaffle: Am I the client? no, I didn't pay you anything thank god
[15:17]  Wrestling Hulka: Focus FWord Focus..you are talking to me
[15:18]  Weedy Herbst: write your own Wrestling instead of demanding others to do your dirty work
[15:18]  FWord Utorid: I am done talking thank you. I would rather WORK.
[15:18]  Wrestling Hulka: Weedy, interesting that you are here :)
[15:18]  FWord Utorid: wrestling, we can talk later when my schedule is more clear.
[15:18]  FWord Utorid: ;)
[15:18]  FWord Utorid: ttyl, and watch the blog.
[15:18]  nimrod Yaffle: Notice how FWord always avoids saying a date?
[15:18]  Wrestling Hulka: I agree with nimrod, he's just stringing you guys along.
[15:19]  nimrod Yaffle: then "doesn't talk to" people when they ask for one
[15:19]  FWord Utorid: yes, i am, i stole your money.
[15:19]  nimrod Yaffle: IM me for a chatlog of our past discussion, Sarah Nerd also agrees
[15:19]  FWord Utorid: idiots.
[15:19]  nimrod Yaffle: "[13:43]  Sarah Nerd: He doesn't answer to anyone, he just strings along sweet people like shep who paid hom."
[15:19]  FWord Utorid: that's why I sent code to land shepherd YESTERDAY
[15:20]  nimrod Yaffle: OLD code
[15:20]  nimrod Yaffle: you sent code you already had
[15:20]  FWord Utorid: YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID AND WASTING MY TIME WITH YOUR BULLSHIT.
[15:20]  FWord Utorid: BYE
[15:20]  Wrestling Hulka: Weedy - the thing is.. I could hire a developer to get a landbot out... and it'd take less than two weeks. Hell, if he has a experience such as FWord is claiming it should take less than a week! But "Real Life" is getting away of things.. including writing long and drawn out blog posts about nothing.
[15:20]  Muratus Losangeles: This is a big scam.
[15:20]  Muratus Losangeles: a 8 month old code? no way that will be competitive.
[15:20]  nimrod Yaffle: hahahahahha
[15:20]  FWord Utorid: [15:18]  FWord Utorid: that's why I sent code to land shepherd YESTERDAY
[15:20]  Eve Express: why the hell are u ppl ragging on this person? what difference does it make to u, when this is done. you haven't put a penny into it
[15:20]  nimrod Yaffle: OLD CODE fwrod, you said you sent code you had 8 months ago! What use would that do?
[15:20]  Weedy Herbst: interesting your here Wrestling... obviously you are too stupid to create your own so you pressure others into making something so you can get back into stealing peoples land
[15:20]  Eve Express: leave him/her alone
[15:21]  nimrod Yaffle: Eve, you are ok with people scamming others?
[15:21]  Eve Express: if u are lucky enough to benefit from someone else's work
[15:21]  nimrod Yaffle: You didn't answer
[15:21]  Eve Express: you'll be bitching about something else
[15:21]  Wrestling Hulka: Weedy - I only want a public landbot to come out so that Linden Labs would be forced to change the land setting process. If there are 100 people running landbot - and 100 bots attempt to login into a region it could reek havok on that region.
[15:22]  Weedy Herbst: since when did you care about whats right and whats wrong... you are only in it for the greed
[15:22]  nimrod Yaffle: If I wanted a landbot code, I could just ask my friend who has one, I DON'T want one, but I don't like people scamming other's either

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The exchanges are hilarious. Fword actually sounds a lot like me about... 15 years ago... at corporate meetings. But that was a lot different (and yes, I got the stuff done).

The thing that gets me about this is... if it is an open source project, the source code should be out there so others can dink with it. And honestly, the person running the project wouldn't have to be a brilliant coder - just someone familiar with the code. Writing a bot isn't something that interests me, or that I support without questions - especially considering the amount of problems Linden Lab ignores about them. Eventually they will have to do something... is it worth the time and effort? I dunno.

But back to the open source project: The code should be available for people to help with if it truly is an open source project. I won't jump in and help, but I imagine others might. Cloak and dagger open source projects really do seem to orbit Second Life for some reason, I have no idea why.

Apart from that, Wrestling Hulka - as usual - had me cracking up. ASAP.

I honestly don't know what to say. Who paid? How much? Granted, I do not know the client code as well as I would want to - but this should be as simple as hitting the search code (which did change recently, so be kind) and teleport code, as well as zotting some buy commands (and sell, depending). A landbot, in design, is not rocket science. I haven't written one, but all of this talk of it might make me consider switching to the dark side.

Nah. Just kidding.

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Fword shows his maturity

He recieved just over 82,500K mostly from Shepard and is to get another 138k? I just think he's childish and if I were seeking out a scriptor, I would never hire anyone with this nasty attitude. He's been dragging this out forever and all he has done so far is hand over a code he wrote a good while back. Maybe left over code from one of the previous customers he didn't come thru for? The last notice he posted shows his maturity level really well....

 

In my efforts to defraud the entire sl community, I have FAILED MISERABLY because I have A WORKING LAND SEARCH PROGRAM and I am solely attempting to coordinate the software into a package for the community. But, you insist upon being impatient and evil, so i will mock you and call you stupid. Attached is a notecard containing land search results from another program I wrote, ran just a few minutes ago. THANK YOU FOR PLAYING!

 

So far this guy is all talk and insults. But at least he's amusing if you stop taking him seriously and stop thinking he has any real scripting capabilitys.

I wish everyone would cool

I wish everyone would cool down here. It seems counter productive to abuse Fword everyday. If its a scam, its a pretty sad, small-time one. The "bank" guys are getting away with hundreds of thousands of US dollars. I mean, if you're going to scam on SL, shoot for the moon. The skies the limit.

Anyway, I don't think its a scam. Fword is juggling a lot of things right now and also learning as she goes. I think everyone is frustrated with the time this is taking but either two things will happen. Either Fword will create the landbot or she won't.

I think she will be releasing an updated search application soon.

http://landbotlobotomy.wordpress.com/objectives/

Once that is out, it can be looked over and tested. It will either be posted on google or emailed.

After that Fword will go to work to produce the "buying" part of the application.

Also, as a footnote, there are other people in the group working on a landbot. They wish to remain anonymous at this point but are learning as they go and attempting to put a basic one together.

Land Shepherd

bots of bots

landbot:set to scoop and buy land at desired price

camper:
someone who's just logged in making $L, whether it be minutes or days
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Not sure of camping bot...
camping bot:
just for traffic count? does owner even have to be logged in for it/them to work? can one buy as many as wanted?
does a camping bot also do what a land bot does also, at the same time?
a landbot is a camping bot is a landbot and they sometimes set in places as a camper making $L also???????

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