Build it and they will come, but you need a reason for them to stay
Build it and they will come, but you need a reason for them to stay
Before any issues can really be tackled we need to know what it is....if it is to become more than just a niche market. If not it needs to attract a lot of active users and I don’t mean thousands, I mean millions. It’s not likely to attract the big advertisers or even RL businesses until we see hundreds of thousands online maybe even millions (yeah I know!) at any given time. I think the way is of the most popular of all social networks, Facebook. The 2 main attractions of Facebook are that it’s extremely easy to use and that people are using their RL names to connect to others.
Because there is that learning curve it may never be as popular as Facebook, but if it gets even a quarter of their numbers and advertisers start seeing large online numbers, it could make all the difference. Unlike Facebook, it has to be downloaded to use, which is not something many working people are going to be doing at work for example. Also there is the catch 22 problem of the more technology develops (which it does, as well as needs too), the more people are going to be left behind. Even older PC’s are pretty much adequate for most people’s online needs. I can’t see many people buying top of the line PC’s or upgrading (if they can).
It just seems to me that it would be a lot more interesting seeing and searching for people from RL and not just basically strangers for the most part. With millions of people in facebook using their RL names as well as the big time advertisers heading over there, well...it’s worth a look.
Advantages of being like facebook.
-Well the obvious...millions of daily active users.
-People have the choice of using their RL names and they can only do this once, so they are more apt to use it seriously
-Who wants to get a bad name if it’s your real one?
-Does one really want to put money into a bank owned by avatars with fake names? (Ok banks etc. are whole different issue)
-Real identities that match payment info on file (name on credit card is that of avatar and profile locks that in when signing up)
-Wouldn’t you feel better buying an island from someone whose name matches their payment info on file for an example? Its more than IDV offers.
-RL name running your business shows more credibility
-Real lives connecting virtually
-Real names to find real people
-Everyone in Facebook looks up people from their past, high school, old flames, relatives etc, they would be doing the same here in SL too.
-Wouldn’t you be curious to visit the SL land, owned by that person you lost touch with so long ago?
-Build your old High School and create a reunion
-many many more possibilities
Yes there are some drawbacks with the use of RL names, but for now I’m just exploring the possibilities
I do hope for the best and hope it evolves into something, but it does need vision ... a purpose...a direction and what attracts people to Facebook is one option worth looking at.
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"RL names" went out with the peasant village
"RL names" is an idea whose time has long passed, and it's a foolish and disastrous error on Facebook's part that they insist on users divulging so much data.
Do you really not put money into a bank "owned by avatars with fake names?" Really? The rest of the world does: they sign their paychecks over to "fictional persons' called corporations whose "residences" are a post office box in Delaware. Most atomic-world business is done through "fake names" specifically to *protect* people from liability.
Synthetic worlds take that concept beyond business into every aspect of identity. We *create* who we are, transcending the concept of inherited identity that marked the peasant with his father's name and job, her husband's identity in name and law. Oh, yes, the peasant village assured you that you knew who you were dealing with and their reputation, back for generations - at the cost of stifling change, growth, experimentation, innovation.
That's what you're advocating *for.* It's antiquated and dangerous. Synthetic worlds are to personal freedom what the corporation has been to financial freedom: a step from the shackles of the inherited into the invented.
Facebook, despite its numbers, has some strange ideas that belong in a past century. SL is a market leader, not a follower: by your logic, Linden Labs should be making cars, because there's a huge market for cars and an industry template. That's not how innovation happens! Innovation happens by breaking from the old ways and seizing on the new.
In three years, the conventional wisdom, what "everyone knows," will be that identity unity and transparency is dangerous, outmoded foolishness, and *of course* anyone would manage their identities through avatars, just as they'd do business through and with corporations. LL is a tiny bit out ahead of that trend, not slavishly following a company with an antiquated business model.
Look outside and wave - that's us passing your unitary identity in the fast lane....
--Sophrosyne Stenvaag, http://sophrosyne_sl.livejournal.com
6 months ago
Six months ( May-07) ago in the SL forums I posted 6 months from now, SL will be........ , thought it was interesting to look back at everyone's predictions
No RL names please....
I disagree with your suggestion that RL names be used in SL. SL is a fantasy-land...of role play and imagination and creation. No better way to smother that than to use RL names. I can do things here that have no connection to RL. I can experiment and try on new ways of being and behaving. And if I want to share my RL name I can - with those I choose to.
I have interactions with RL people using their RL names - IN RL!!! I do not need to make a make-believe world that consists of all RL things and people. WHY?? What a waste of energy.
I do not think RL names would lend more credibility. What is to stop someone from lying?????
Leave SL the way it is and go start your own RL-Land - but leave my playground untouched. Go be boring with the rest of the people on Facebook.
RL names
Facebook was in the news the other day, people were being told they were revealing too much information about themselves and that that is dangerous. I really don't think RL names is an attractive proposition. I certainly wouldn't want to use my RL name on SL. Isn't part of the selling point of SL getting away from RL?
Now as for buying an island off someone whose name matches their payment info on file name, I don't see that as being an issue either. If people are going to rip people off with their SL name tied to RL info, they will also rip people off with their RL name tied to their RL name.
I think that LL can help with trust, by getting away from their "No interference" approach and actively aiding residents who are scammed. If someone buys an island and it isn't delivered, LL have a duty to intervene, surely?
Yes
Yes, for sure a lot of negatives as well with using RL names. And they would have to verify that everyone is 18+
I'm just going with the numbers of what's popular, at least a 100 times more ACTIVE users in Facebook than SL.
I think LL should have brainstorming meetings with residents, not necessarily about this, but everyone's new ideas.
2 Million logged in right now
2 Million logged in right now....in Facebook that is. I'm guess-timating at any given time they have at least 2 million people logged in.
I wonder if that's why they are not allowing RL names.........imagine 2 million logged in to SL...at the same time
Wonder what Google's Myworld is up to ?
Ideas are good
I'm sure those who operate at the higher end of the business model would welcome your suggestions. When you're talking L$500,000 as opposed to L$500 it does put a different perspective on a suggestion.
As for brainstorimg, I absolutely agree. There is a suggestions section on the official forums but as LL apparently backed away from the forums because they made the workers feel bad, I'm not sure how much notice they take.
Not so clear cut, though...
If 1000 people invest 500 L, the result is 500,000 L. Thats really a tough issue, and one that scammers are well aware of - but it is also very important for honest microtransactions, etc...
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