Eagle Avro / EagleLand Avro. Pro Scammer?

I week ago I learned of Eagle Avro / Eagleland Avro when he scammed Alpha2 Zenovka out of $16,000L by selling her land that wasn't really his to sell. Wednesday night his named popped up again when Yohan tp'd me into an argument between Eagle, and my good friend Orlando Gloucester. Seem's Eagle was trying to sell Orlando a 20K bot that doesn't exsist. The more I spoke to Eagle, and to people associated with him, the more scams I found that he was involved with. I almost found myself in one. So lets have a walk through Eagles scam logs so that You understand why I call him a pro SL scam artist.....

SCAM #1 Eagle haggles a few land deals with Alpha2 Zenovka. She buys a few small lots, but when they get to the 3rd largest and most expensive lot Eagle explains its a group deeded lot and he needs paid directly, and says that they need to go throuh some crazy process to transfer the land to her. He claims that the named group owners of the lot are his other avatar and his wife. After paying him 16K down on the lot, Alpha2 finds out shortly after that he has lied to her and the land is owned by Elanthius Flagstaff and Skye Whitcrot and he was only renting the land. The only good part of this situation is that when Elan and Skye learned what happened they paid Alpha2 the money she had lost out of pocket. No matter what differences I have had with them in the past, I have to admit that was a very stand up thing of them to do.

The "You" in this chat log is Alpha2 Zenovka

[3:07] You: hi eagle
[3:07] Eagle Avro: hello
[3:07] Eagle Avro: 468 simand 1024
[3:08] You: whats 468?
[3:08] Eagle Avro: sim
[3:08] Eagle Avro: items you can put on land
[3:08] Eagle Avro: prim i mean sorry
[3:08] You: ok :)
[3:08] Eagle Avro: this is one look up here
[3:09] Eagle Avro: here s a water fall also
[3:09] Eagle Avro: and few other items here to all gos with the land
[3:10] Eagle Avro: interested?
[3:11] Eagle Avro: you interested?
[3:11] You: ok - nice spot even if its a bit busy round here :)
[3:11] Eagle Avro: lol interested?
[3:12] Eagle Avro: want to see other
[3:12] You: depends on price Eagle
[3:12] You: if you wanted to sell this slowly you might get the 20k but it might take a while. If you wanted to sell quickly it would be much less
[3:12] Eagle Avro: hey you got min on your computer
[3:13] You: min?
[3:13] Eagle Avro: ?
[3:13] Eagle Avro: mic
[3:13] Eagle Avro: to talk with?
[3:13] You: no sorry - Im a luddite :)
[3:13] Eagle Avro: ok want to see other land?
[3:14] You: well I want to make sure I dont waste your time - if you want a quick sale I'd be offfering say 7300ish for this
[3:14] You: which probably freaks you out
[3:15] Eagle Avro: let me show you both ok
[3:15] You: ok :)
[3:15] Eagle Avro: heres other
[3:15] You: hi again :)
[3:15] Eagle Avro: all land around here is hor sale also
[3:17] Eagle Avro: lland arounf here is forsale also?
[3:17] You: hhmm nice
[3:17] Eagle Avro: make me offer
[3:17] Eagle Avro: or make me offer for both ok
[3:18] You: thinking...
[3:18] Eagle Avro: ok because im buying up a sim and i need more money to more land in the sim you know'
[3:19] You: I understand :) best I can do for a sale NOW 14750; could be better if you had more time
[3:20] Eagle Avro: how about this ill tele port you ok
[3:20] You: where to?
[3:21] You: and how does that compare to the price you pay in the sim youre buyuing??
[3:22] Lorac Cleanslate is Online
[3:24] Eagle Avro: this is 6144 sq m and it has
[3:24] Eagle Avro: 1406 prims
[3:24] Eagle Avro: also
[3:24] Eagle Avro: what you think
[3:24] You: is this where you are buying up?
[3:24] Eagle Avro: no
[3:24] You: ah
[3:25] Eagle Avro: this is my building lot
[3:25] Eagle Avro: where i tri stuff out at
[3:25] Chriss Wunderland is Online
[3:25] Eagle Avro: what you think
[3:25] You: a private sandbox! :)
[3:25] Eagle Avro: ya
[3:26] You: good - whats next door?
[3:26] Eagle Avro: not mine someones house
[3:26] Eagle Avro: so you interested?
[3:27] You: Id have some work to do here - could buy the others right away - how many lidens do you need 'soon"
[3:27] Eagle Avro: 27000
[3:28] Eagle Avro: because some one is wanting to buy up land i need if i dont get it soon
[3:30] You: OK as I said I just bought a big chunk - I can do 24k today and more tomorrow - someone is buying a large block from me
[3:30] Eagle Avro: this is up high from below
[3:30] You: ok - you get the last message?
[3:31] Eagle Avro: no
[3:31] You: OK as I said I just bought a big chunk - I can do 24k today and more tomorrow - someone is buying a large block from me
[3:31] You: I picked a bad day to be short lol
[3:31] Eagle Avro: 24 on what land or lands
[3:33] You: well it depends what you want to do - the 3 places would sell NOW for around 43000
[3:33] You: for me NOW is today and tomorros :)
[3:33] You: you could get more if you waited but....
[3:34] Eagle Avro: well what will you give me for this one \
[3:34] Eagle Avro: ?
[3:34] Eagle Avro: its a huge lot
[3:34] Eagle Avro: here
[3:34] You: sorry - mid50ks not mid 40ks!!!
[3:35] You: for all 3
[3:35] Eagle Avro: so what will you give me for all three
[3:35] Eagle Avro: now?
[3:37] You: well Id offer about 56k for all 3 BUT I can only give you 24k cash right now until I get a payment tomorrow unless...
[3:37] Eagle Avro: unless what?
[3:37] You: hang on
[3:37] Eagle Avro: ok
[3:38] You: so could we do a deal on that price Eagle? if I can swing it?
[3:39] Eagle Avro: what price the 56 k?
[3:39] Eagle Avro: or 24 k
[3:39] Eagle Avro: what price 56k or 24 k?
[3:40] You: 56k for everything IF I can swing it - Im not sure yet
[3:40] Eagle Avro: well when will you know
[3:40] You: give me 5-10 mins?
[3:41] Eagle Avro: ok hurry please guys on my land i want to bye now with owner they giving me 10 min to buy it or i lose it ok
[3:41] You: ok - but we woudl have a deal??
[3:41] Eagle Avro: yes
[3:41] You: ok 5-10!
[3:41] Eagle Avro: hurry
[3:42] Eagle Avro: tell me something please
[3:42] Eagle Avro: you said u heard of land bots right?
[3:42] Eagle Avro: im tring to find 1 for my sim im tring to get you know where i could get one at?
[3:43] Eagle Avro: ?
[3:44] You: ask Johan Pintens or try SLEX
[3:44] Eagle Avro: are they on now?
[3:44] You: JOhan isnt - othe other is SLExchange website
[3:45] Eagle Avro: if you can get me one now ill take take 4000 off
[3:46] Eagle Avro is Online
[3:46] You: I've organised 52k
[3:46] You: still trying...
[3:46] Eagle Avro: so you got 52k now
[3:47] You: yes
[3:47] Eagle Avro: ill take its a deal ill teleport you ok
[3:47] Eagle Avro: brb
[3:47] You: ok
[3:47] You: ok got 53k now
[3:47] Eagle Avro: we will start with the one ok
[3:48] Eagle Avro: 53 is good ok
[3:48] You: so this is 1/8 of total right?
[3:48] Eagle Avro: what you mean ?
[3:48] You: so is 53k OK - thats all I can get my hand on
[3:48] Eagle Avro: yes
[3:48] You: well this is 1024 and there is 8192 total
[3:49] Eagle Avro: i guess i see it has three lots im selling
[3:50] Eagle Avro: i dont go by 1/8 i concedder it 3 plots i got for sale
[3:50] You: make this say 7000 and the other 1024 the same
[3:50] You: and the rest on the big plot
[3:50] You: 29000?
[3:50] Eagle Avro: i was slitting tottel 3 times
[3:50] You: 39000!!
[3:51] Eagle Avro: that way i dont get screwed not say you would thow
[3:51] You: well my way its pretty fair!
[3:51] You: or we could start with th ebig plot?
[3:52] Eagle Avro: wellill make them say 10000 and 10000 and 34000 ok
[3:52] Eagle Avro: is that ok
[3:53] You: 8000/8000/37000 is OK - I dont want to get screwed either :)
[3:53] You: but we;d netter hurry!
[3:53] You: better
[3:54] Eagle Avro: set
[3:54] Eagle Avro: buy it
[3:54] You are now the owner of 34 objects that came with your purchased land
[3:54] You: one down
[3:55] Eagle Avro: set buy it
[3:56] You are now the owner of 2 objects that came with your purchased land
[3:56] Eagle Avro: buy it
[3:56] You: 2 done
[3:57] Eagle Avro: hello agin
[3:57] Eagle Avro: this one here is being sold to you as a group land ok
[3:57] Eagle Avro: because i got it for group ok
[3:58] You: ok
[3:58] Eagle Avro: so what ill do is make you owner ok and then ill resign ok as owner and its all yours ok
[3:58] Eagle Avro: ok?
[3:59] You: not set yet?
[3:59] Eagle Avro: no not yet i got to make you owner of the group
[3:59] Eagle Avro: then your the owner of the land ok
[3:59] You: well I could just buy it anyway from the group
[3:59] Eagle Avro: only way i can sell the land
[4:00] Eagle Avro: i cant set it like that
[4:00] Eagle Avro: only make you owner
[4:00] You: oh
[4:00] Eagle Avro: becouse its group land
[4:00] Eagle Avro: is that ok
[4:00] You: well I have bought land from groups no problem
[4:01] You: the linden go to the group and then you can get them
[4:01] Eagle Avro: well im telling you thats only was i can set it
[4:01] You: ok then I guess
[4:01] Eagle Avro: im sorry
[4:01] Eagle Avro: i tried it other way before and dint work
[4:01] Eagle Avro: so ill make you owner ok
[4:02] You: the WildEagles group?
[4:02] Eagle Avro: go over here while im setting up
[4:02] Eagle Avro: ya you can change all that later you know
[4:03] Eagle Avro: fli over to that garge behind you till i set it up ok
[4:03] You: cant other members get the lindens?
[4:03] Eagle Avro: no they come to me only
[4:04] You: long as youre sure
[4:04] Eagle Avro: im sure
[4:04] Eagle Avro: fli over there ok
[4:04] Eagle Avro: behind you ok
[4:04] You: IM OK here :)
[4:04] Eagle Avro: after i set it up you will get kicked off land till i make you the owner
[4:05] You: oh!
[4:09] Eagle Avro: you got to caome to the land and by the pass
[4:09] You are no longer allowed here and have 15 seconds to leave.
[4:11] Eagle Avro: by the pass then your set as the owner
[4:11] Eagle Avro: you got to go out side of land till i te;ll you ok
[4:11] Eagle Avro: im setting it up wait please
[4:14] WildEagles
Can't enter parcel, not on access list.
[4:14] You purchased a pass.
[4:14] Eagle Avro: i dont have that maney land holdings
[4:14] Eagle Avro: you dint get pass
[4:14] Eagle Avro: how you get in
[4:14] You: yes
[4:15] Eagle Avro: did you paa
[4:15] Eagle Avro: pay
[4:15] You: yes
[4:15] Eagle Avro: how much
[4:15] Eagle Avro: i didnt get it
[4:15] You: 36L
[4:15] Eagle Avro: 36?$
[4:15] You: uhuh
[4:16] Eagle Avro: well it was set wrong
[4:16] Eagle Avro: sorry wait im sorry
[4:16] You: whats wrong with setting the sale for sale for the figure?
[4:17] Eagle Avro: do me a fav ok go out puy pass agin to see if i get it ill set it for 1 L$ ok
[4:17] Eagle Avro: please let me tri it ok
[4:17] You: the owners are Elanthuis Flagstaff and Skye Whitcroft
[4:18] Eagle Avro: that other names
[4:18] Eagle Avro: on here
[4:19] Eagle Avro: go back out please
[4:20] You purchased a pass.
[4:21] Eagle Avro: you pay
[4:21] Eagle Avro: ?
[4:22] You: yea I paid 1L
[4:22] Eagle Avro: ok now im setting it
[4:22] Eagle Avro: you as owner ok
[4:22] Eagle Avro: ready
[4:23] Eagle Avro: hello
[4:23] Eagle Avro: you ready
[4:23] You: IM still just a member of the group
[4:23] Eagle Avro: i no i ask if your ready
[4:23] Eagle Avro: im setting you as owner ok
[4:23] You: ok
[4:24] Eagle Avro: first pay me because once i set you i ant oner no more you are
[4:24] Eagle Avro: and i dont want to lose money or land
[4:24] Eagle Avro: set it to pay me
[4:24] Eagle Avro: tell me when you payied
[4:25] You: what I dont understand is youre not an owner at the moemnt?!
[4:25] Eagle Avro: i got 3 reobots i go this is one
[4:25] You: the owners are Elanthuis Flagstaff and Skye Whitcroft
[4:25] Eagle Avro: yes my wife and me are the owners
[4:26] Eagle Avro: thats why i said pay to me and then lands is yours
[4:26] You: so youre elanthius?
[4:26] Eagle Avro: yes
[4:26] Eagle Avro: y
[4:27] Eagle Avro: you eather want the land or not i dont got all day sorry
[4:28] Eagle Avro: fine pay half then after your owner pay other half ok
[4:28] You: yeah well niether do I - Ive never had to do this before to buy land - if youre the owner set the land for sale and I will pay the moent
[4:28] Eagle Avro: but like i told you its in a group
[4:28] Eagle Avro: only way i can sell it to you is make you owner of the group then its yours
[4:29] You: Ive bought group land every day for the last few weeks - that what I cant understand
[4:30] Eagle Avro: well im just telling you how i can do it
[4:30] Eagle Avro: sorry
[4:30] Eagle Avro: if you dont want it ill sell it else where
[4:30] Eagle Avro: up to you
[4:30] You: well just try setting it for sale - put 100000 and my name on it
[4:31] Eagle Avro: it tells me cant be sold
[4:31] Eagle Avro: only way i can sell it is how i told you
[4:31] Eagle Avro: ive done it before
[4:32] Eagle Avro: a few time at that
[4:32] Eagle Avro: you want it or not
[4:32] Eagle Avro: im getting tired
[4:32] Eagle Avro: i just have to set you to owner and your the owner
[4:33] Eagle Avro: ill resign after your the owner
[4:33] Eagle Avro: and im out of the group
[4:33] Eagle Avro: like i said pay half then after you get land give me rest of the money ok
[4:33] You: there are other owners - and youve donated tier - it looks complicated
[4:33] You: other members I mean
[4:33] Eagle Avro: other members ok ill get them out wait
[4:34] You: so you dont want the group any more?
[4:37] Eagle Avro: ok you got remove rest after your the owner ok
[4:37] You: got a comment on this? ... have now had 2 instances of group land being bought - and no money being paid. The land was then put on sale at a much cheaper price. When I asked Live Help - they suggested Land Barons?? Who/what are these and what's going on? The first one was done by Supreme Flock of Land Ninjas - Elanthius Flagstaff - second appears to have been done by Joseph Mansbridge?
[4:37] Eagle Avro: what was that
[4:38] You: a coment on Slexchange
[4:38] Eagle Avro: for what
[4:38] You: problems with land sales
[4:39] Eagle Avro: well iv sold every land ive every said
[4:39] Eagle Avro: your the one that offered me the price
[4:39] Eagle Avro: i told you to pay me half and half
[4:39] Eagle Avro: so you want the land or not
[4:40] Eagle Avro: if not some one else will this is a great lot a nd cheap
[4:40] You: well let me ask the straight question - can I trust that I will end up with the land?
[4:41] You: Im not going anywhere
[4:41] Eagle Avro: well that y i said half and half because after you got it i dont no if i will get paid or not you
[4:41] Eagle Avro: no
[4:41] Eagle Avro: what
[4:41] Eagle Avro: i
[4:41] Eagle Avro: mean
[4:42] Eagle Avro: so you want it
[4:42] Eagle Avro: i ant tring to fuck you over im tring to get my other land
[4:42] Eagle Avro: and i only got few more min to get this done now
[4:43] You: ok - I'vv give you 15k, and stand here and get rid of all other members in group then pay the rest - I wont go anywhere till its done - thats my commitment
[4:43] Eagle Avro: and do me a fav also ok
[4:43] You: what?
[4:43] Eagle Avro: i got to test something later ok can i do it here for 2 hours?
[4:44] Eagle Avro: and thats it
[4:44] You: after we get the change done
[4:44] Eagle Avro: ya thats what i mean
[4:44] Eagle Avro: come up topp
[4:44] You: tp me
[4:45] Eagle Avro: i like it here up here do you?
[4:46] Eagle Avro: send me 16000 now rest after your owner ok
[4:46] Eagle Avro: and you will still owe me 20000 ok
[4:46] You: ok heres 16k
[4:47] Eagle Avro: ok waitingh
[4:47] Eagle Avro: ok waiting
[4:47] Eagle Avro: got it
[4:47] Eagle Avro: got to get my wife ok so she takes her as owner off ok
[4:47] Eagle Avro: brb 5 min is that ok
[4:47] You: tp her
[4:48] Eagle Avro: i am
[4:48] You: not really - top her
[4:48] You: no nooed to go away
[4:48] Eagle Avro: nooed whats that
[4:49] Eagle Avro: got to wake her ok wait
[4:49] You: need
[4:50] Eagle Avro: brb
[4:56] You: eagle has now gone away - doesnt make me feel good !!

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[5:01] Alpha2 Zenovka: hello!
[5:01] Eagle Avro: 5 min
[5:01] Alpha2 Zenovka: its bene 10 already
[5:01] Eagle Avro: sorry 5 mon ok
[5:08] Alpha2 Zenovka: thats another 5
[5:11] Alpha2 Zenovka: this is ridiculous
[5:11] Alpha2 Zenovka: either we finish this off or I report abuse
[5:22] Alpha2 Zenovka: I have an SL mentor here - can you come back now please
[5:26] Alpha2 Zenovka: shes helping me prepare a report to SL
[5:27] Eagle Avro: why im putting land to you now
[5:27] Alpha2 Zenovka: well she can help you do it if you like
[5:27] Eagle Avro: i told i was going to my kid got sick wait
[5:28] Eagle Avro: heko me what my kid is more inportet right now hold please
[5:31] Eagle Avro: ill im you iwhen i get done with her ok
[5:32] Alpha2 Zenovka: how long do you expect?
[5:32] Alpha2 Zenovka: maybe just send that 16k back for the moment then IM me when you have time - thats what the mentor suggested
5:51] Alpha2 Zenovka: This was also pointed out to me about land transfers:, so I doubt you dont know how to transfer land from a group: As for better documentation, the thing that amuses me is the BEST documentation for transfering land safely was written by Skye Whitcroft who happens to be the wife of NinjaLand's own Elanthius Flagstaff.
[5:52] Eagle Avro: im giving your 14000 back ok
[5:52] Alpha2 Zenovka: 16000!
[5:53] Alpha2 Zenovka: Ive recorded all the chat and IMs so I can prove it
[5:54] Eagle Avro: thats fine ill get you your 16000 back to you later ok got to go bye
[5:54] Alpha2 Zenovka: now please
[5:54] Alpha2 Zenovka: your on the computer
[5:56] Alpha2 Zenovka: Profile/PAy/16000 and its done
[5:56] Alpha2 Zenovka: waiting
[6:20] Alpha2 Zenovka: Eagle Ive been waiting to sort thid out for an hour and a half now. it's 130AM here and I expect to see my 16000L back in my account when I log on again or I'll be filing an abuse report with all the chat and IMs
[6:23] Alpha2 Zenovka: Im logging off now
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SCAM #2 Eagleland Avro try's to sell Orlando Gloucester land and a landbot that doesn't exsist in my opinion.

The "You" in the logs on this note card that was given to me is Orlando Gloucester.

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Hello Sarah , as you know a guy tried to samm me yesterday, here is part of the conversation :

[23:46] EagleLand Avro: im selling everything im getting off second life
[23:47] EagleLand Avro: all my land
[23:47] You: whats total sqm?
[23:47] EagleLand Avro: my land bot everything interested
[23:47] EagleLand Avro: i got 1 sim and i got a few 512s and i got a 7,264 and little more
[23:47] EagleLand Avro: you interested
[23:47] You: yes
[23:48] You: when are you leaving?
[23:48] EagleLand Avro: this is my last time on here
[23:48] You: you have a land bot?
23:48] EagleLand Avro: im paid up for about 3 months and u can use my ters if yopu want to also ok
[23:48] EagleLand Avro: yes i got a great working land bot
[23:49] EagleLand Avro: for sale also
[23:49] EagleLand Avro: why you want one
[23:49] You: but how could i use your tier
[23:49] You: ?
[23:49] Schorsch Freund is Online
[23:49] EagleLand Avro: ill donate them to your group then you use them
[23:49] EagleLand Avro: but you got to remember you only got till JAN 25 to use them ok
[23:50] You: but why you leaving?
[23:50] EagleLand Avro: you interested in my land bot
[23:50] You: i dont know if i can use it
[23:51] EagleLand Avro: well it has a drop box in it
[23:51] EagleLand Avro: it checks every sim there is in second life and it buys the land
[23:51] EagleLand Avro: and if any one ever abonds there land you will get it
[23:51] You: but i have to get another account for it right?
[23:52] EagleLand Avro: no
[23:52] EagleLand Avro: it invisable
[23:52] EagleLand Avro: it buys up everything for you
[23:52] You: mmm
[23:52] You: how much would that cost?
[23:52] EagleLand Avro: you set it to buy any thing under 50L$ and you get alot of land
[23:53] EagleLand Avro: ive sold a few of them befor to poeple
[23:53] EagleLand Avro: and they started thier own land selling biss with the land it got them
[23:53] You: im not sure for the bot
[23:54] EagleLand Avro: it will bring you around 17000 sq m a day maybe more
[23:54] EagleLand Avro: well its hard to find one
[23:55] EagleLand Avro: so you want the bot and the land
[23:55] EagleLand Avro: i got to sell it all togeather please
[23:55] You: how much?
[23:55] EagleLand Avro: well what it is ill give you my name and password ok
[23:56] EagleLand Avro: then you can transfer it to your nAME OK
[23:56] EagleLand Avro: i loved second life truly i did
[23:56] EagleLand Avro: i wish i dint have to leave you klnow
[23:57] EagleLand Avro: make me offer ok i got 1 full sim and then i got a 7,264 and i got 14 512s and i got 6 32s and i got 56 16s for advertising with and i got land bot also
[23:58] EagleLand Avro: im taking all the L$ i got and trading them in tonight the money will go to my paypal you know
[0:00] EagleLand Avro: ill give you this avatarv and password for it and it will have everything in it land bots and lot more ok
[0:00] You: whats your price man?
[0:01] EagleLand Avro: what ever make me a offer
[0:01] You: what i dont get his you are 6 days old
[0:01] EagleLand Avro: this is my other name for my group i have
[0:02] EagleLand Avro: i got a few names
[0:02] You: i just want land
[0:02] EagleLand Avro: ive been on here forset last year
[0:03] EagleLand Avro: my other name is bennyboy ball
[0:03] You: i just want the land
[0:03] EagleLand Avro: how much you give me for the all the land
[0:03] You: only want land i mean
[0:04] EagleLand Avro: make me a offer
[0:04] You: whats your price per sqm please?
[0:04] EagleLand Avro: 3
[0:04] You: ok set all to my name
[0:04] EagleLand Avro: ok add that up for me i dont no what to set it for
[0:05] EagleLand Avro: how much
[0:06] You: ok you know this his groupe owned
[0:06] You: and it will go to group
[0:06] EagleLand Avro: yes
[0:06] You: oki
[0:06] EagleLand Avro: i could make you the owner of the group ok
[0:06] You: no
[0:06] You: i want to buy
[0:06] EagleLand Avro: ok how much
[0:06] You: here 21000 set to my name
[0:06] EagleLand Avro: ok wait
[0:07] You: you need
[0:07] You: to put
[0:07] You: my name
[0:07] You: in pseciific
[0:07] EagleLand Avro: wait i got to sell it all ok bot and all or no deal sorry i want to unload it all at one time ook
[0:07] You: buyer
[0:07] You: yes i take all
[0:07] EagleLand Avro: land bot and all
[0:08] You: no all the land
[0:08] You: i maean all the land
[0:08] EagleLand Avro: i got to sell it all
[0:08] EagleLand Avro: im off after tonight
[0:08] EagleLand Avro: and i dont want to look for anyone else to buy stuff
[0:08] EagleLand Avro: so you want all the land buy bot also
[0:09] EagleLand Avro: sorry that my offer
[0:09] EagleLand Avro: yes or no
[0:09] You: how much for the bot?
[0:09] EagleLand Avro: 20000
[0:09] EagleLand Avro: i paid 50000 for it
[0:09] EagleLand Avro: i got it like 3 months ago
[0:10] EagleLand Avro: it works great
[0:10] EagleLand Avro: ill have to put it in your profile ok
[0:10] You: naaaaa
[0:10] You: see ya

AND THEN HE COMES BACK :

[0:27] EagleLand Avro: well
[0:28] You: i want the land before the bot
[0:28] EagleLand Avro: no bot first because i dont think you will take it if i sell you the land first i got that feeling friend
[0:28] You: yes
[0:28] You: im honoraBLE
[0:29] EagleLand Avro: well so am i
[0:29] EagleLand Avro: ill give you bot first before the land ok
[0:29] EagleLand Avro: yes or no
[0:30] You: its invisble ?
[0:30] EagleLand Avro: yes
[0:30] EagleLand Avro: it covers the land
[0:30] EagleLand Avro: invisalbe
[0:31] You: but its a box?
[0:31] EagleLand Avro: sorry miss spell im tired
[0:31] EagleLand Avro: yes
[0:31] EagleLand Avro: it only invisalbe when your using it
[0:31] EagleLand Avro: so no one sees it working
[0:32] EagleLand Avro: you can turn it on or off when you dont want to use it also
[0:32] EagleLand Avro: it has a full controller with it
[0:33] EagleLand Avro: like i said i payed 50000 4 it

AND YOU KNOW THE REST

PLEASE PASS THIS IMPORTANT INFO :)))
TKS
YOUR FRIEND ORLANDO GLOUCESTER

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Well Orlando TP's in Yohan, who tp's in me. By this point Orlando is upset knowing Eagle was attempting to scam him. We ask him to see this bot and he claims he doesn't trust us and refuses to let anyone see the supposed bot. Yohan questions him about Alpha2, and he seems to forget about scamming her a week earlier and claims to have no idea who she is. After a few moments he gets upset and ejects us all. No big deal we knew it was coming. =) A few mins after being ejected, I get an im from Eagle.........

[1:01] EagleLand Avro: you got a group about land bots thats why you wanted me to show you mine right?
[1:02] EagleLand Avro: so you could turn me in right
[1:02] Sarah Nerd: No I just don't for one moment believe you have one
[1:02] Sarah Nerd: Turn you in? It's not illegal
[1:02] EagleLand Avro: i do but i ant showing them
[1:02] Sarah Nerd: Because Your full of shit, plain and simple
[1:02] EagleLand Avro: everyone made me think it was
[1:03] EagleLand Avro: fine ill show you and you only ok
[1:03] Sarah Nerd: No working bot owner would sell one for 20K
[1:03] Sarah Nerd: ok
[1:03] EagleLand Avro: not today in alittle bit when no ones around ok
[1:03] EagleLand Avro: i will show you it thow
[1:03] EagleLand Avro: then you can tell them i got one
[1:03] Sarah Nerd: Well I know all of the working landbots names, which is yours?
[1:04] Sarah Nerd: When you deal land you see them on plots all of the time
[1:04] EagleLand Avro: tell you the truth i got one have not used it yet i got it off benny and i dont no how to use it
[1:05] Sarah Nerd: benny?
[1:05] EagleLand Avro: but its name is Belittlevixon Avro
[1:05] Sarah Nerd: Saw that name in Your land group.
[1:06] EagleLand Avro: ya it said in the info to get a avatar
[1:06] Sarah Nerd: Did it come with a how to notecard?
[1:06] EagleLand Avro: then it will use it
[1:07] EagleLand Avro: dont know ill look why you want to know
[1:07] Sarah Nerd: just curious about how it all works
[1:07] Sarah Nerd: And that would be pretty good proof that you were telling the truth
[1:08] Sarah Nerd: Who did You buy it from?
[1:08] EagleLand Avro: like i said ill show you later then you tell them ok
[1:08] EagleLand Avro: some guy named benny
[1:08] EagleLand Avro: why
[1:08] Sarah Nerd: Benny who
[1:08] EagleLand Avro: i paid 50000 for it
[1:08] Sarah Nerd: Thats a new name to me in the land business
[1:08] EagleLand Avro: i dont know its been a while
[1:09] EagleLand Avro: like i said i never scamed anyone and ill prove it
[1:09] Sarah Nerd: Ok you show me your bot and explain to me how it works and I'll tell Orlando and Yohan
[1:09] EagleLand Avro: ok deal
[1:09] EagleLand Avro: but i truly dont know how it all works thow
[1:10] Sarah Nerd: Well they had to give you information to operate it
[1:10] EagleLand Avro: ya im saying im not used to it
[1:10] EagleLand Avro: i never tried it yet ill tri it today and set it up ok
[1:10] EagleLand Avro: then ill show you ok
[1:11] EagleLand Avro: accept so i can show you later ok
[1:11] Sarah Nerd: ok
[1:11] EagleLand Avro: then after i show you tell them to leave me alone ok
[1:12] EagleLand Avro: and tell who ever i was accused of scamming to im me also tomarrow ok
[1:12] Sarah Nerd: alrighty
[1:12] EagleLand Avro: tomorrow
[1:12] EagleLand Avro: ok
[1:12] EagleLand Avro: so what is he going to stay by my land all the time now
[1:12] EagleLand Avro: yoda
[1:12] Sarah Nerd: I think he is afk
[1:16] EagleLand Avro: im selling my land i got here
[1:16] Sarah Nerd: At what price?
[1:17] EagleLand Avro: something i wont get
[1:17] Sarah Nerd: and what size?
[1:17] EagleLand Avro: its only 7,264
[1:17] EagleLand Avro: and a 512 it the back not connected
[1:17] EagleLand Avro: all for 100000 i wont get it thow lol\
[1:18] Sarah Nerd: no thats really high especially for odd shape and surrounded by ads
[1:18] EagleLand Avro: i got offered 60000 today for it i said no thow
[1:18] EagleLand Avro: but theres alot for sale by it thow
[1:19] EagleLand Avro: make me offer for it and its yours if it good
[1:19] Sarah Nerd: Should of taken that. 8.2 is way above average for that type
[1:19] Sarah Nerd: I would only offer 49K
[1:20] EagleLand Avro: well i need alittle more then that i would take 75000 for it thow including 512 also
[1:20] EagleLand Avro: with biulding on it
[1:20] Sarah Nerd: I would offer 3500 for the 512
[1:21] Sarah Nerd: No one wants land surrounded by ads, its a hard sell
[1:21] EagleLand Avro: i paid 6000 for the 512 with the building on it
[1:21] Sarah Nerd: Sorry to hear that
[1:21] EagleLand Avro: lol
[1:22] EagleLand Avro: would you give me 65000 for everything
[1:22] Sarah Nerd: no
[1:23] Sarah Nerd: 52 would be my best possible
[1:23] EagleLand Avro: ok 60000 that way i can get out of land biss
[1:23] EagleLand Avro: and set shop up some where and be by myself
[1:23] Sarah Nerd: 52500
[1:23] EagleLand Avro: 55000
[1:23] Sarah Nerd: 49 for the large piece and 3500 for the 512 is the best possible i would offer
[1:23] EagleLand Avro: come on 55000 please
[1:24] EagleLand Avro: please
[1:25] EagleLand Avro: hey
[1:25] EagleLand Avro: 52000 for large one ill keep small one ok
[1:26] EagleLand Avro: i can use small one to build on
[1:26] Sarah Nerd: 51000
[1:26] EagleLand Avro: 51500
[1:26] Sarah Nerd: 51 is my final offer
[1:27] EagleLand Avro: deal
[1:27] Sarah Nerd: ok set it for sale and set my name in under sell to a specific person
[1:27] Sarah Nerd: and ill buy it
[1:27] EagleLand Avro: ok
[1:28] EagleLand Avro: give me 5 min to think ok please
[1:28] Sarah Nerd: ok You do that and let me know
[1:28] EagleLand Avro: ok tu
[1:42] EagleLand Avro: hey
[1:43] EagleLand Avro: can i sell it to you tomaarow please
[1:43] Sarah Nerd: sure just im me when your want to show me that bot and how it works
[1:44] EagleLand Avro: ok i dont want anyone around when i show you ok
[1:44] Sarah Nerd: alright

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A few hours later he messages me telling me the land is set to me. I don't see it on the list so he teleports me there. The land is set to me at the price I offered but the land is 1000 meters smaller. After a few moments and me refusing to buy he joins it all and does end up setting to me at the price I quoted. This kinda suprised me because at that moment honestly, I was just waiting to hear him use his land group selling scam. I never thought he would set the land to me at my quoted price and I was just humoring him to get more proof for the blog. I still don't know if him setting the land to me 1000 meters smaller was an attempt to see if I would buy without looking at size, or an honest mistake. He's in a big hurry just like he was with Alpha2.

[3:39] EagleLand Avro: hey
[3:39] Sarah Nerd: Hi
[3:42] EagleLand Avro: its set
[3:42] EagleLand Avro: for you to buy it
[3:42] EagleLand Avro: ok i got to go ok
[3:42] EagleLand Avro: bye
[3:42] Sarah Nerd: Ok I'll get it as soon as it appears in listings
[3:43] EagleLand Avro: what listings
[3:43] Sarah Nerd: the land listings
[3:43] Sarah Nerd: when you set mainland for sale it shows there
[3:43] EagleLand Avro: its being sold to only u
[3:43] Sarah Nerd: and if you set my name in under sell to specific person ill see it but no one else will
[3:43] EagleLand Avro: please hurry ok
[3:44] EagleLand Avro: can i teleport you here
[3:44] Sarah Nerd: its a 7264 meter lot at 51K?
[3:44] Sarah Nerd: Yea tp me
[3:45] EagleLand Avro: poeple are playing my slot
[3:45] Sarah Nerd: It's 1000 meters smaller than you said
[3:45] Sarah Nerd: you said it was a 7264
[3:46] Sarah Nerd: So I'm going to pass
[3:46] Sarah Nerd: but ty
[3:46] EagleLand Avro: y
[3:46] You: Because it's 1000 meters smaller than you said
[3:47] You: So I'm gonna pass on it
[3:47] EagleLand Avro: iim tring to put other land in your name wait
[3:48] Sarah Nerd: oh I see
[3:48] EagleLand Avro: told you
[3:48] EagleLand Avro: se it there
[3:48] Sarah Nerd: wasnt connected
[3:49] EagleLand Avro: hey
[3:49] You: Set it to me again and I'll buy it
[3:49] EagleLand Avro: can i ask you a fav please
[3:49] You: what?
[3:49] EagleLand Avro: can you let my slots stay here till tomarrow please
[3:50] EagleLand Avro: can you please
[3:50] You: Slot machines?
[3:50] EagleLand Avro: ya in the sky
[3:50] You: It's against the sl terms of service
[3:50] EagleLand Avro: please can i leave them there till tomarrow
[3:51] EagleLand Avro: its on ly s;lot ok i re move them give me 20 min ok please
[3:51] You: Ok will do
[3:51] EagleLand Avro: ok bye thank youi bye

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And a little while later I get anouther im....This time from Minxabel Fizzle who I guess had given Eagle 8K to help him invest in buying the land that I had just bought off of Eagle.

[6:03] Minxabel Fizzle: when did you buy eaglelands
[6:03] Sarah Nerd: tonight
[6:04] Minxabel Fizzle: ok I wasn't told it was going to be sold
[6:04] Sarah Nerd: Ok
[6:05] Minxabel Fizzle: and I couldn't log in ...you know that inventory thing
[6:06] Minxabel Fizzle: did Eagleland sell to you or did the group sell it to you
[6:06] Sarah Nerd: Eagleland
[6:06] Minxabel Fizzle: ok so he scamed me like he's scamed others
[6:07] Sarah Nerd: Are You serious?
[6:07] Sarah Nerd: It was in his name and he had started the group.
[6:07] Sarah Nerd: I should have known better
[6:08] Minxabel Fizzle: don't worry about it I didn't have alot in it but I'm pissed that he did this
[6:08] Sarah Nerd: How did he scam You?
[6:09] Minxabel Fizzle: only about 8000L and alot of my time
[6:09] Sarah Nerd: YOu helped buy the land?
[6:10] Minxabel Fizzle: he asked for L4 to invest in getting the land and get it up and running
[6:10] Minxabel Fizzle: yes some of it
[6:11] Sarah Nerd: He tried to sell my friend a landbot today
[6:12] Minxabel Fizzle: oh interesting he had me try looking for one of those and I sent one im never got a responce so I stopped looking
[6:13] Sarah Nerd: You sent one what?
[6:13] Minxabel Fizzle: I heard they aren't nice and really didn't want anything to do with them
[6:14] Minxabel Fizzle: and IM to some guy that had an add "LANDBOTS UNITE"
[6:14] Sarah Nerd: Well I intend on blogging about Eagle. He scammed Alpha2 for 16K, he tried to scam a friend of mine today, and it seems he's pulled one over on you as well
[6:15] Minxabel Fizzle: yes and the ninija group
[6:15] Minxabel Fizzle: they rent land he did some thingto them also
[6:15] Sarah Nerd: I quoted his land and when I went to buy it it was 1000 meters smaller than earlier in the day.
[6:16] Sarah Nerd: But I said no thank you and he rejoined it
[6:16] Sarah Nerd: Were there any others in the group that had helped get this land
[6:17] Minxabel Fizzle: No
[6:17] Minxabel Fizzle: not that I know of
[6:18] Minxabel Fizzle: reaper had given him L$ before as loans that he didn't repay
[6:18] Sarah Nerd: whats reapers last name?
[6:19] Minxabel Fizzle: Troncon
[6:19] Minxabel Fizzle: it's reaper0369
[6:20] Minxabel Fizzle: sorry reaper 0392
[6:20] Sarah Nerd: ty
[6:21] Minxabel Fizzle: you might also talk to bennyboy Ball I believe he scamed him
[6:22] Sarah Nerd: He told me he had bought the landbot from a guy named Benny
[6:22] Minxabel Fizzle: so he says
[6:22] Minxabel Fizzle: I'm sorry he lies alot
[6:23] Sarah Nerd: Yea I caught that lol
[6:24] Minxabel Fizzle: here is a conversation he had with some one you might find interesting
[6:25] Sarah Nerd: Thank You
[6:25] Minxabel Fizzle: Eagle Avro: ok [5:02] Eagle Avro: you interested in any more land? [5:03] Levyashinlegend Lednev: i am not premium member [5:03] Levyashinlegend Lednev: so i cant own land [5:03] Eagle Avro: well i can cover the ters and you can own it [5:03] Levyashinlegend Lednev: how much [5:04] Eagle Avro: all you got to do is start a group and invite me in a s a member and then i can donat ters to your group [5:04] Levyashinlegend Lednev: i have only got 80L to start a group [5:04] Eagle Avro: then when you buy land you buy it for the group which your the owner of the group and the land [5:04] Levyashinlegend Lednev: it costs 100L [5:04] Eagle Avro: well friend that wont get you much here sorry [5:05] Eagle Avro: you can buy from me using paypal and ill start you a group to put your land in if you buy it from [5:06] Eagle Avro: so if your interested in some land nice land i accept paypal also [5:06] Eagle Avro: you interested in some land ? [5:06] Levyashinlegend Lednev: maybe another time [5:06] Eagle Av
[6:26] Minxabel Fizzle: the only thing with that is if he removed his tiers what happens to the lnad
[6:27] Sarah Nerd: Do you have that convo on a notecard?
[6:28] Minxabel Fizzle: yep
[6:28] Minxabel Fizzle: I copyed a few of our conversations
[6:31] Minxabel Fizzle: when I felt there wasn't some thing right I would copy it ....I waas trying to have the time and dates of when he said things like a contrack
[6:33] Sarah Nerd: If you have anything worth while that your willing to share I'd appreciate any notecards
[6:34] Minxabel Fizzle: most are just his promises and that L$ that I gave were loans
[6:34] Sarah Nerd: Ok
[6:35] Sarah Nerd: This guy is a real asshole
[6:35] Minxabel Fizzle: It seems so

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SCAM #3 Eagle Scams Bennyboy Ball out of a 1/4 sim.

Well after talking to Minxabel, I im'd the people who she mentioned being Scammed by Eagle. The first person I spoke to was Bennyball. Short version is Eagle talked Benny into starting up a military group with him. Benny bought the land and deeded it the group that both he and Eagle were owners in. Eagle sold the parcel to himself for 1L, then resold the land leaving Benny screwed out of a 1/4 sim of land.

[6:22] Sarah Nerd: Hello, I'm doing a blog on people that Eagleland has scammed and was told that he may have scammed you
[6:23] bennyboy Ball: about ten times yes
[6:23] bennyboy Ball: :P
[6:23] Sarah Nerd: Damn
[6:24] Sarah Nerd: Also today he attempted to scam a friend of mine into buying a landbot that he couldnt manage to show him and said he bought it from a guy named Benny, but thats all he could remember
[6:24] Sarah Nerd: Can I ask how he scammed You?
[6:24] bennyboy Ball: yes
[6:24] bennyboy Ball: he joined me to his group
[6:24] bennyboy Ball: and he wanted to make a army base
[6:25] bennyboy Ball: so then he wanted me to buy the land for the group
[6:25] bennyboy Ball: so i bought land and deeded it to his group then he bought the land for 1 linden and sold it
[6:26] bennyboy Ball: when its on group he can sell the land to him self and thats what he did
[6:26] Sarah Nerd: Wow
[6:26] bennyboy Ball: it was 1/4 sim
[6:26] Sarah Nerd: Ouch
[6:26] bennyboy Ball: yep
[6:26] Sarah Nerd: Thats a good hunk of real money
[6:27] bennyboy Ball: yeah
[6:27] bennyboy Ball: did he scam you?
[6:28] Sarah Nerd: He scammed a friend of a friend a week or so ago, and today he attempted to scam a friend of mine
[6:28] bennyboy Ball: who?
[6:28] bennyboy Ball: minxable
[6:28] bennyboy Ball: ?
[6:29] Sarah Nerd: I bought a piece of land from him and have a girl claiming that she had helped pay for the land, and the list keeps growing of people he scammed everytime I talk to anyone
[6:29] Sarah Nerd: yea

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SCAM #4 Eagle Avro scams reaper0392 Troncon. Well all this really is is unpaid loans from Reaper, but I'm sharing because I think it helps paint the picture of Eagles dealings.

[13:40] Sarah Nerd: So he loaned money from You and never paid?
[13:40] reaper0392 Troncon: he borrowed money and set up a land deal and never returned on eather
[13:41] Sarah Nerd: Seems like a popular practice with him
[13:41] reaper0392 Troncon: yha i dont know if he was flipping the land then cashing out or what but i know he did it to a couple people
[13:43] Sarah Nerd: How much money did You loan him? The card was blank
[13:43] reaper0392 Troncon: crap
[13:44] reaper0392 Troncon: i loaned him 700L and he promised 1k back
[13:45] reaper0392 Troncon: hes flipped 15 propertys in the last 2 weeks
[13:45] reaper0392 Troncon: that i know of
[13:45] Sarah Nerd: What's the short version of the land deal you had with him?
[13:46] reaper0392 Troncon: we were suposto start a group to buy a sim and creat a mall(to start)
[13:47] reaper0392 Troncon: but me and minx were suposto get 512m for or selfs just in case the deal fell through
[13:48] reaper0392 Troncon: befor we knew it egal fliped land in three diffrent sims and sold the land we were suposto get the 512 on
[13:49] reaper0392 Troncon: then i got told by benny that eagle was selling off his land withought consent (to fund eagles land purches)
[13:49] Sarah Nerd: Yea he said he bought a 1/4 sim, Eagle sold it to himself for 1L because he was a group owner then resold
[13:50] reaper0392 Troncon: yha he flipped between 3 diffrent names

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And finally EagleLand Avro messages me again to sell me more land.

[20:54] EagleLand Avro: hey
[20:54] EagleLand Avro: Question for you ok
[20:54] Sarah Nerd: whats that
[20:55] EagleLand Avro: i got the last of my land for sale you interested in it
[20:55] EagleLand Avro: its 8,192 sq m and it has 4687 prims
[20:55] EagleLand Avro: you in terested
[20:56] Sarah Nerd: Why not offer part of it to Minxabel
[20:56] EagleLand Avro: because i already spoke to her
[20:56] EagleLand Avro: she dint know what i was doing
[20:56] EagleLand Avro: why i sold the land to you i told her
[20:57] Sarah Nerd: So You have paid her back?
[20:57] EagleLand Avro: no we are still sharing land for the group i got bigger place for the group
[20:58] Sarah Nerd: I found that guy Benny
[20:58] Sarah Nerd: He says he bought 1/4 sim
[20:58] EagleLand Avro: bennyboy
[20:59] EagleLand Avro: hes my old group owner
[20:59] Sarah Nerd: and you were an owner in the group so you sold it to yourself for 1L, resold the land and he is out all of his money
[20:59] EagleLand Avro: hes not the benny i was talking about
[20:59] EagleLand Avro: i gave money thru paypal i still got the proof on my paypal yet
[21:00] Sarah Nerd: I also talked to reaper
[21:00] EagleLand Avro: get to know him you will find out what kinda persion he is
[21:00] EagleLand Avro: ya so what about reaper
[21:01] Sarah Nerd: He says you pulled the same land scam on him, and that you also borrowed money and never returned
[21:01] EagleLand Avro: reaper said that
[21:01] EagleLand Avro: i neaver sold him any land ever and i only owe he like 1400
[21:02] Sarah Nerd: So Alpha2, Orlando, Minx, reaper, and Benny all lied to me?
[21:02] EagleLand Avro: i dont even no alpha2 or orlando or minx
[21:03] Sarah Nerd: You sold Alpha2 land that you were renting from the Ninja land group so wasnt really yours to sell
[21:03] Sarah Nerd: she gave you 16k
[21:04] EagleLand Avro: like i said i dont know alpha2
[21:04] Sarah Nerd: Orlando is the guy you tried to sell land and a landbot to last night
[21:04] EagleLand Avro: i got to for a few be back ok

[21:04] Sarah Nerd: Minx is Minxabel
[21:04] EagleLand Avro: brb

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Well he never came right back, He never showed me this landbot, He never refunded Alpha2, and he will no longer respond to my messages since I questioned him on these people. Take from all of this what You will, but my personal feeling is that he is a dishonest person who has scammed many and will continue to do so to others. He always trys to hurry people into these deals so that they pay without spending to much time thinking it through. I was aware of 4 or 5 people. These leaves me to wonder about how people he has scammed or attempted to scam that we arn't aware of.