Linden Lab Billing Madness
Last month, my credit card information ceased to work - but continued to work for a secondary account that I had. I contacted Linden Lab about this, and after lengthy email discussions with Linden Lab and my bank, I couldn't get the card to work for my account. It is an amazing thing. The same payment information works on one account, not the other, and Linden Lab said my bank wasn't authorizing the $1 request to resubmit my payment information.
I simply switched to PayPal - which worked. I don't really like using PayPal, but it had the benefit of working whereas the new payment system of Linden Lab seemed hokey. My bank is in the U.S. The information had worked previously. Suddenly it doesn't work. PayPal, using the very same credit card information, worked. Duh.
Today I get an email that there was a Billing Failure; it says:
If you are using Paypal, check your Paypal account's verification and backing. Your Paypal account must be verified and backed by a funding source other than a credit card. (We are unable to accept Paypal accounts backed by credit cards.)
Huh? When did this happen? My last usage of PayPal in conjunction with Second Life was on May 26, 2007, for $20.76 USD - so whatever change there was happened between May 26th and June 17th, 2007. Maybe I missed something in the Second Life blog - so I looked, targeting May 15th to the present day.
I immediately see In World Lindex Purchases Over the Weekend - but that isn't it. This isn't 'in world' - this is through the website. The post Errors when purchasing L$ through LindeX is apparently about the same thing, which doesn't fit my problem.
Foreign Transaction Fees do not appear to be the problem - if they were, it would mean that something was working.
The Support Portal entry is worrisome, since I'm not sure which exact method to use... So I used every way I knew (shotgun approach) in the hope that something would work. If any Lindens read this - I'm talking about #4051-4205229 in the support system with follow ups on [rt.lindenlab.com #833726] and [rt.lindenlab.com #833171] - the latter email references for last month's billing issues.
There were no more entries related to billing when I read back to May 15th, 2007. So I kept digging. I did a search on Billing, which brought forward two posts from April: [Updated] Billing Processing Error Update and We are currently experiencing issues with Billing Processing. These entries were as useful then as they are now - not very. And the knowledge base? No, not useful at all.
So - something happened between May 26th, 2007 and today which made PayPal backed by credit cards obsolete with no blog entries on it. So I'm sitting here, on a Sunday, with the full knowledge that even as a concierge user I probably won't get any support over the weekend.
All of this boils down to: I have the funds, and I want to pay, but Linden Lab can't seem to keep a consistent system for billing and I'm afraid to touch my account information for fear that it will take even longer to resolve - putting a lot more than my sanity at risk. They changed things and I was not informed of any changes until... I was billed. What's up with THAT?
Now when I speak with them, or I write to them, I am expected to be docile and amiable about this... but who in their right mind would be? This is silly. Still, one has to be polite and understand that it is not the fault of an individual attempting to assist one. These problems indicate a lack of communication somewhere - and that lack of communication desperately needs to be addressed.
Me? Right now I wish they hired a whipping boy so that I could call that person up and yell at them in good conscience. This has gone beyond irritating.
I simply want billing to work, as it did before. Am I out of my mind to want this? Apparently so. Thus the Flaming Penguin of Wrath.
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No REAL support anymore!
Although the SL Blog reports that the phone lines are fixed & operational, with support agents returning to take your calls - it's bulls***!! Try calling one, you get referred to the "support page on sl.com", try calling their offices, you get referred to support page again, finally TRY holding for operator - you are asked to leave a message, blah, blah, blah. In other words, no one can speak to any human being anymore! Fort Knox can only dream of this kind of lockdown!
Obvious those of us with payment probs, can just rot in thier opinion!
Yep
Say hello to numba tree
Got the same mail this mornin. I've gone back and forth between a credit card and PayPal 3-4 times since I started playing. Looks like I have to again, and pray it actually works, which isn't a given, apparently
Cant pay with credit card
I have the same problem.
You would think The Linden's would be quick to help, as at the end of the day they will be loosing money. But that does not seem to be the case.
We want to pay but can not and get no help. Guess we will sell up and get out...we don't really have any other option.
Poetry
Brief follow-up to my 1st post.....
I have just spoken to my bank, currently, SL shows my account as "update pending", has been that way for days. My bank tells me they have never even tried to resubmit for approval! I am as many of you, I can & want to pay, but SL appears to not care about making money from me......
I have done numerous bug reports, have automated replys out the wazzoo - if they will not resubmit for approval, what can one do? Sadly, I see no options but to sell our land, our store & everything we love about SL :-(
Just confirmed Not Using Credit Card for PayPal...
Instead, it is supposed to be coming from my bank directly.
The mystery deepens.
Not the only one...
I too have had problems with their system. My Credit cards do not work with them, none what so ever. I once had PayPal added to it but having problems with buying lindens elsewhere resulted in my account being limited by PayPal and they had cancelled all my payment agreements including those that pay my tiers (thank goodness i already paid them).
As I go through the process adding my PayPal account and it complete's, I'm redirected back to the site from where a error message appears. I had contacted the lindens by phone and their new flashy support system. They had cleared my billing info on file but still does not help. Oh, I can still purchase lindens through the Xchange with a previous credit card on file which should not be there :) I only purchased 1k checking to see if paypal had been added but I noticed it charged my card. Which no longer can be added.
Sounds familiar.
Well, that's two that we know of... so at least we know that it is 'repeatable'. And if there are two, the odds are good that there are at least 3...