Wrestling Hulka
*turns off @SecondLie* Sorry Folks, I’m not sure how it keeps switching back online.
Graciella Princess is a Spammer
DO NOT SUPPORT THE ADVERTISERS BELOW.
These are the advertisers that support the Spammer, Graciella Princess.
Note to advertisers on this list: You can get off this list by pledging that you will no longer advertise in Graciella Princess’s magazines or support her future endeavors. Please contact me inworld at Wrestling Hulka.
- MV Vendor Directory
- Owned by: Anakalia Catteneo
- Website: monogramvirua.com
- I J DESIGNS
- Owned by: Insky Jedburgh
- Interesting to Note: Teleport link is to the wrong location.
- Relay for Life
- Scripters Convention (Second AD)
- Owned by: Anakalia Catteneo
- Website: monogramvirua.com
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Monogramia%20Prime/251/211/302
- LXIX - The Biggest Little Club in SL
- Owned by: Abigal Blatchford
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Industry/46/91/25
- Creation Sensations
- Owned by: Jimmie Rubble
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Creation%20Sensations/128/128/0
- Darnet Radio
- Owned by: Stacy Spiegel
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Orz/126/121/25
- Owned by: Stacy Spiegel
- Haute Style & Co
- Owned by: Forda Fairlane
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Haute%20Couture/166/116/22
- Pulse Point Marketing
- Owned by: Solange Benoir
- Website: http://www.pulsepointmarketing.com
- A Space for Dreams
- Owned by: Luta Lassard
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife.com/Foxboro/136/178/245
- Petal Meg Jewelry
- Owned by: Fuscia Jewell
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jewelry/61/97/37
- “Say I Do” Bridal Expo
- Sponsered by: Monogram Virtua, Majestic Weddings
- Owned by: Aliciana Decosta
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Gold%20Coast/131/198/25
- Website: http://www.monogramvirtua.com/
- Demantia Tower
- Owned by: Abigal Blatchford
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Sunnydale%20SL/122/17/2
OVERVIEW:
This afternoon I received an offline message from a subscription server. The server delivered me the Second Life Magazine, “Bridging the Gap” which is owned, edited, and operated by Graciella Princess. I never once opted into the list to get the magazine, it was unsolicited spam. I immediately teleported to the server and filed an abuse report with Linden Lab on all the Subscription Servers, Graciella Princess herself, and the scripter of the magazine, LilyNeeAnne Hilite. I think contacted Graciella Princess to ask her to remove me from her spam list. Here is that conversation:
[20:00] BTG Subscription Kiosk owned by Graciella Princess gave you ‘Bridging The Gap V1 Issue 5’ ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Diosa/212/100/22 ).
[20:13] Wrestling Hulka: Hello Hi, I did not request for your magazine to be sent to me. I have AR’d you, LilyNeeAnne Hilite, and The server that sent the unsolicited spam. In my opinion this violates the “Disturbing the Peace” section of the Second Life community standards. Please take this time to remove me from your servers and assure that I never receive such spam again in the future. Also, make sure you are fully acqainted with the community standards (http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php).
[20:14] Graciella Princess: I am very affiliated, and also know that because you are able to remove yourself from the kiosks, it is not considered spam. I have already looked into this.
[20:14] Graciella Princess: Your name was pulled off of a group that requests freebies to be sent to you.
[20:14] Wrestling Hulka: Graciella, I never signed up for your spam.
[20:15] Wrestling Hulka: I’ll make sure that Sarah Nerd removes you from that group. It specifically says no advertisements or spam.
[20:15] Graciella Princess: I’m not in that group, but thanks. :)
[20:16] Wrestling Hulka: Your continued attitude of this issue makes me believe that you are not going to take me off the listing. Is this true?
[20:16] Graciella Princess: no it’s not. i’m downstairs now removing your name since you were unable to press the unsubscribe button.
[20:16] Graciella Princess: and i’m sorry that my pleasant, friendly attitude bothers you, sir
[20:17] Wrestling Hulka: Graciella, please remove all the others you added to the list. Clearly you have a feature that allows people to subscribe - let users subscribe properly instead of spaming the grid with these objects.
[20:18] Graciella Princess: There ya go. You’re removed now. :) Have a wonderful day, sir.
Yes, you read that correctly. Not only did Graciella Princess admit to sending out a mass spam to people who didn’t ask to receive the junk mail, she said she got her list from a Sarah Nerd’s freebie group. All those advertising dollars you spent on her magazine were spent on penny pinchers inside of Second Life! Sarah Nerd, a very influential avatar inside of Second Life also confirmed to me that she too received the spam from Graciella Princess.
Later on Gracilla decided to taught me further:
[20:31] Graciella Princess: okay. :)
[20:31] Graciella Princess: have fun with that sir, and have a great night.
[20:33] Graciella Princess: By the way, do you think people would be interested in a writers convention? We’re thinking of hosting one, and running a writing contest with well known writers as judges. what do you think of the idea?
[20:33] Wrestling Hulka: Now your just mocking me.
[20:34] Graciella Princess: No I’m not. I’m making conversation.
[20:34] Graciella Princess: And I am genuinely interested in your opinion.
[20:34] Graciella Princess: Is this something that you, or others you know in SL, might be interested in?
I stopped responding to her because I began this report.
More Documents:
- Gracilla Princess Profile Snapshot as of June 26, 2008 - Click Here to Read.
- Full text of the Spam that was sent to me - Click Here to Read.
DO NOT SUPPORT THE ADVERTISERS BELOW.
These are the advertisers that support the Spammer, Graciella Princess.
Note to advertisers on this list: You can get off this list by pledging that you will no longer advertise in Graciella Princess’s magazines or support her future endeavors. Please contact me inworld at Wrestling Hulka.
- MV Vendor Directory
- Owned by: Anakalia Catteneo
- Website: monogramvirua.com
- I J DESIGNS
- Owned by: Insky Jedburgh
- Interesting to Note: Teleport link is to the wrong location.
- Relay for Life
- Scripters Convention (Second AD)
- Owned by: Anakalia Catteneo
- Website: monogramvirua.com
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Monogramia%20Prime/251/211/302
- LXIX - The Biggest Little Club in SL
- Owned by: Abigal Blatchford
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Industry/46/91/25
- Creation Sensations
- Owned by: Jimmie Rubble
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Creation%20Sensations/128/128/0
- Darnet Radio
- Owned by: Stacy Spiegel
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Orz/126/121/25
- Owned by: Stacy Spiegel
- Haute Style & Co
- Owned by: Forda Fairlane
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Haute%20Couture/166/116/22
- Pulse Point Marketing
- Owned by: Solange Benoir
- Website: http://www.pulsepointmarketing.com
- A Space for Dreams
- Owned by: Luta Lassard
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife.com/Foxboro/136/178/245
- Petal Meg Jewelry
- Owned by: Fuscia Jewell
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jewelry/61/97/37
- “Say I Do” Bridal Expo
- Sponsered by: Monogram Virtua, Majestic Weddings
- Owned by: Aliciana Decosta
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Gold%20Coast/131/198/25
- Website: http://www.monogramvirtua.com/
- Demantia Tower
- Owned by: Abigal Blatchford
- SLURL: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Sunnydale%20SL/122/17/2
You are missing “I survived a Japanese Gameshow” on ABC! RIGHT NOW
And the virtual harassment continues. Don’t people have better time to spend their days than...
Kasumi Barski is a Bitch for 3USD
Joseph Brooks: Kasumi, Just for you I have listed the Refraction Textures separately. They are available here: http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=752596
Of course, you *could* purchase them in this combo set where you will get them for a deal price. Please note that in the description of the Combo-set I do value my refraction textures separately as being L$3000.
Kasumi Barski: You just dont get it do you?! I wanted the combo pack, I made a mistake and I bought the wrong one. I did not realize I had til recently. What I want is the texture pack at the combo price, But you are so unwilling to make a customer happy by selling me that refraction textures at the combo price of 499L ... Im not going to pay 3000L for something your offering at a lower price. You just do not do good business. Im sorry. But you want me to spend more money than I already have, Even me willing to pay 499L EXTRA for the textures but no.
Joseph Brooks:
Sweetheart - According to Nimrod Yaffle you purchased the Furniture Package a month ago, it took you a month to realize you purchased the wrong set? Either way I do not control his products, nor can I offer you any type of refund for products that you buy from Nimrod Yaffle.
For the last time - I AM NOT GIVING YOU THE TEXTURES FOR L$499.
Please stop bitching and complaining about me saying NO. I'm sorry if you feel this is me being rude, but it's me sticking by my own policy. I do not have the time, nor the effort to offer every single person who purchased Nimrod's listing a side-deal for the textures. I'm not going to make an exception for anyone.
The reason we made this listing was so people could benefit from having both products. Simple as that.
I ask that all my customers please be aware what they are purchasing before doing so. It's common sense.
Nimrod Yaffle: OMG you guys are nuts
Kasumi Barski: Yea well, Im glad that people can see just how crappy you do business.. Yes I didnt realize I bought the wrong one, because I am busy constantly doing custom work. Most people would have been more than happy to help with my request, I dont see what the big deal is honestly... Nimrod already got his cut of the combo pack ... even more ... Im trying to get the textures I should have gotten when I bought the pack. But its fine, since you want to be such a scrooge about it *shrugs* All I can say is I hope other people will read this and see how unwilling you were to help just one person.
Joseph Brooks: Kasumi, at this point you are just harassing me into lowering the price of my textures. I am not going fall for your bullying act. Please stop posting in this discussion unless you have purchased this set.
Joseph Brooks: Further more, I do help customers. Just in the past few days for this set alone I offered one customer a custom white refraction texture set so he could use the color slider in SL to customize his own colors, and I sold one set in-world to another customer who didn't have an SLexchange account.
I just refuse to offer the textures for L$499.
Kasumi Barski: I am not trying to bully you. I am trying to make you see reason. I paid 778 for the furniture pack already, I am offering to pay 499L for the texture pack I would have gotten when I bought the combo pack ... So in theory here, Im paying 1277L for this combo pack. Nimrod already said he wouldnt refund me for the first pack I bought. I dont see why you are being so difficult with this. Your not lossing out on anything here, your getting your 50% cut from out of this if I were to buy the combo pack..... You aren't making ANY Sense. Period.
Joseph Brooks: Excuse me, I said No. I don't see what's so difficult for you to understand about NO.
I am not selling my textures for L$499 anywhere. Not here, nor to you. If you want the textures separately you will need to pay L$3000, or you can buy this combo-set for L$998.
These are your only options to obtaining these textures.
Kasumi Barski: Your just a tool.
Joseph Brooks: Honey, you're the one with the complex.
Joseph Brooks: You're constant bullying inworld, and then bringing it to this thread is making me less willing to fulfill your needs. As a mater of fact, I do not want you to buy these textures nor any other textures created by me. To me it's like you buying a jar of Grape Jelly at Walmart, then a month later going to Kmart and asking for a jar of Peanut Butter for half off because my advertisement offers them together for nearly the same price you bought the grape jelly. That shit doesn't fly in the real world, nor does it here with me.
Kasumi Barski: Yea ok dude. Thats not even the same thing, Its like going to walmart buying a jar of jelly thats supposed to come with a can of peanut butter at 50% coming back and saying hey I forgot the peanut butter, Can I get it still? And 99% You better beleive they would give it to me because THATS customer service!
Joseph Brooks: Kasumi, No it isn't.
Nimrod Yaffles product and mine are completely different. We are two different vendors. You purchased from him, not from me.
We, me and you, have NEVER done business before. You are coming to me with an issue saying "Oops, I meant to buy yours, can you give it to me for cheaper?" The answer is NO.
Kasumi Barski: Whatever man, Your a tool with absolutely NO customer service skills what so ever, To be honest your textures are crap anyway.. Ive been to your store wouldnt waste my money ... But these are halfway decent textures. But I wouldnt spend a single dime on you now. So buhbye .. I hope everyone reads this and sees just how uncustomer friendly you are. Have a great night.
Joseph Brooks: Just discussing this with you two nights in a row is proof that I have excellent customer service. I have responded to your concern and while the outcome is not to your satisfaction I have still provided a solution to your situation.
"Good Customer Service" doesn't always mean that the business folds to the customer's demands.
Kasumi Barski: Right, Good Customer Service means when both the customer and the business leave the table feeling satisfied with the resolution. Ive worked in major cell phone companies customer service for 10 years. What you have provided is no solution. Its either I walk away or you charge me an extreme amount for what would have been a reasonable priced item. You have not provided "Good Customer Service"
Joseph Brooks: I'm sorry you feel this way. Please feel free to take part in the phone survey on your way out the door.
Kasumi Barski: blah blah blah
Joseph Brooks: Now that's just spamming my discussion again.
Chat with Leo
Wrestling_Hulka: Hey Leo! I just read your message in the concierge group and I just wanted to know if as a member of the concierge group I should be looking forward to more announcement and other concierge related topics coming from the Concierge Information Group in the near future? Like I said in the chat there it seems that the Blog.SecondLife.com is the best way for the concierge team to get messages out to us.
Leo: We never use that group for announcements - exactly what you said - the blog is the place for any official announcements
Wrestling_Hulka: Is there a possibility we can get a change to the charter for this to be a discussion group among concierge users? :)
Wrestling_Hulka: And for it to be clear on the chatter that the best place to get the latest info is on the blog?
Wrestling_Hulka: charter* ;x
Leo: Quite frankly it's EXACTLY for enquiries like earlier about the terrain textures. But it is is YOUR interests to keep the irrelevant stuff to a minimum. I often use that group as an early warning indicator of grid problems. And I can't do that if I have to keep it closed because of all the social noise
Leo: But regarding announcements - ALWAYS the blog is the place, not any inworld group
Leo: Heh fair question, I'll have to think abtou that
Wrestling_Hulka: :P
Wrestling_Hulka: Good day sir!
This person wastes my time over 2USD
[15:50] Joseph Brooks: I offer the textures separately in my store for 350L per set.
[15:50] Joseph Brooks: the only way to get them together is to purchase the combo-package
[15:50] Kasumi Barski sighs
[15:51] Kasumi Barski: So since I paid full price for the full furniture set, there isnt anyway you would sell me the full texture set at some kind of discount... even tho now... there is a combo pack ...
[15:51] Joseph Brooks: Ask the creator of the Furniture Pack for a refund then purchase the combo pack.
[15:56] Kasumi Barski: Ok that makes no sense, thanks anyway ....
[15:56] Joseph Brooks: I'm not going to give you my textures for 200 dollars. I'm sorry.
[15:56] Kasumi Barski: but thats how much you would get if I bought the combo pack...
[15:56] Joseph Brooks: No it's not!
[15:56] Kasumi Barski: I dont see what the big deal is.
[15:56] Kasumi Barski: ok
[15:57] Joseph Brooks: My percentage is not the difference between the two sets
[15:57] Kasumi Barski: How much fromt he combo back do you get?
[15:57] Kasumi Barski: I will pay the commishion you get off that
[15:57] Kasumi Barski: Im not asking for them for 200L
[15:57] Joseph Brooks: And I would want you to purchase the combo-pack on Slexchange anyways because it increases my ranking.
[15:57] Kasumi Barski: I will pay what you get off the combo pack
[15:58] Joseph Brooks: I don't understand why you can't ask nimrod yaffle for a refund then just repurchase on SLexchange.
[15:58] Kasumi Barski: I will make a post on your stuff.
[15:58] Kasumi Barski: Because coming to you to pay for the textures is easier?
[15:59] Kasumi Barski: The way you want me to do it, I have to go back to nimrod... talk to him explain the situation ... hope he will refudn me what I paid... then buy the whole thing all over again... when I dont need the furinture pack I already have it
[15:59] Joseph Brooks: Well, the combo-pack has the furniture package in it
[15:59] Kasumi Barski: I know, I already HAVE it
[15:59] Joseph Brooks: so you'd be getting the furniture pack again anyways
[16:00] Kasumi Barski: Oh you mean you dont have just the textures in a box
[16:00] Joseph Brooks: I'm sorry - I cannot do this for you. It says right on nimrod's item which one you need to purchase if you want the textures included.
[16:01] Kasumi Barski: Oh thanks, Your an idiot... I dont see what the problem with selling me the texture pack at what YOU get off the sale is so freaking hard. Make absolutely NO sense ..... Thank you, I will be sure to never buy anything of yours again.
[16:01] Joseph Brooks: Fuck off
[16:02] Joseph Brooks: Complete waste of time for 2USD

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